I take care of two other single mother with children families besides my own wife and children. The idea that marriage is some necessary evil flies in the face of the honor God puts on marriage. God, through Nathan, rebukes him. The same statement is in the New Testament (1 Timothy 3:2). Otherwise the wife would also have rights to give her flesh to other husbands as well (polygamy) and that would totally discredit any genealogy tracing, for in those days they did not have DNA or blood testing. God doesn’t change His mind, and while He has the power and authority to have full control, He doesn’t exercise it. Why is it that the men of the old testament including the heroes of the Christian faith -Abraham, Jacob, Gideon, David, Solomon etc etc all could have multiple wives, concubines, sex slaves of the beautiful captives (Deuteronomy) and with some of these guys they with their wives permission could have sex with others. Plus, use coupon code UNCOVERINGINTIMACY for a 10% savings! It’s no wonder that I’ve lost the desire to live. P We can interpret dubiously 1 single line, or look at the whole context, of which that line is the end result of being told that David had many wives already, so why steal another’s. God can take our terrible decisions and still sometimes make good happen from them. This pattern of one man for one woman continues for a few generations. People read it, and think “If David did something, it must be what God wanted”. The wife. And large crowds followed him, and he healed them there. Don’t get me wrong I do tend to go along with your argument of one man to one wife, as even Paul in 1 Timothy 3:2 lays the groundwork to back that up, but the question remains that symbolically Jesus is the Bridegroom(singular) and in the analogy given He fully intends to marry all 10 virgins, but in the end while He doesn’t get all five He does marry the five who had extra oil with them. The problem is, this is a foreign concept to western marriage (as a generic whole). But, find ways to connect with God, regardless of what is happening in your environment (even in your marriage). Let the father be responsible for his children. Jews have a very interesting view on marriage and it’s something I encourage every Christian to explore. If we take responsibility for our own actions this world would be improving one person at a time. I would like to sat interesting article and add my 0.02$ I’m one of previous comments the question was raised if one is in a polygamous relationship and is then converted what to do then , according my Bible this is called adultery , search as you may you can’t find in the bible that God approves of it , my personal belief ; God recognizes the first marriage between man and woman , as long as either live , anything else is adultery , God does not recognize polygamy as an thing else , so going with the stabbed person theory , ( don’t pull out the knife , you’ll bleed to death ) we now have so called Christians saying , yes I know it’s sin but it would cause to many problems to follow God’s commands , my personal opinion again , what awaits the unrepentant sinner is incomparably worse than any discomfort we might have in this life. In your accounting of the events with Abram/Sarai/Hagar you make the assumption that what Sarai suggested something she and Abram considered forbidden of God, yet there is no command against it for them to think that way. Just as He did for divorce. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. Therefore be imitators of God, as beloved children. God even tells David he would have given him more wives if he asked. As I told my ‘shrink’, after finally reaching a conclusion, “I can deal with the pains, I can deal with the rejections, I can deal with the failures, I can deal with the physical illnesses & struggles, I can deal with the deaths of my first three children. After all, in Judaism, a woman can divorce her husband for withholding food, clothing, OR sex. ‣ I’ve adjusted the post. He was also commissioned to judge the many trespasses against his Family (all judgement is given unto the son.) He forbade divorcing your wife from the beginning. Not quite true. He sets up an idol in Judges 8 and Israel begins to worship it. ‣ Jacob 2:27 – Wherefore, my brethren, hear me, and hearken to the word of the Lord: For there shall not any man among you have save it be one wife; and concubines he shall have none. LDM Perhaps look at it more along the lines of “everything is permissable but not everything is beneficial”. 5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept. Old one, but goody. Turn away your eyes from me, for they overwhelm me— Your hair is like a flock of goats leaping down the slopes of Gilead. They were denied everything marriage was supposed to give them because there were so many other wives as well. Paul makes it clear that a spouse takes away from the time you can spend dedicated to ministry. There are many Bible verses about marriage and they start right from the very start. After that, there is no wrong person. He had 700 wives, princesses, and 300 concubines. I agree that no one should need a verse to tell them what is right or wrong. Don’t worry, that’s not going anywhere. If he felt that was morally wrong and felt hurt and angry over being duped, why keep Leah? Well I’m not certain that another ‘man’ interpreting God’s words, especially if the scripture being referenced is not a verbatim translation has any more value than the next person interpreting Gods words. I received a question this week in my inbox. So they translated the Greek to say a leader must be a man of but one wife. Trying to cast polygamy as inherently immoral by attributing motives and adding into the scriptures things not there to reach a desired conclusion is very unwise. When he became impatient with God and had Ishmael by his wife’s handmaid Hagar. Jacob accepts, but I’d argue it was not a rational decision. Not so, Paul said that leaders should have only one wife. And what was the one God seeking? What I find even more interesting, in responding to you in particular, is that the Book of Mormon (The LDS Third Testament for those that don’t know) seems to denounce polygamy as well: In other words while we were created in God’s image Jesus is God created in man’s image. That’s the problem with creating beings in God’s image: they have free-will. And you shall not take a woman as a rival wife to her sister, uncovering her nakedness while her sister is still alive. Just as we won’t take the parable of the thief in the night and say that it’s okay for us all to become thieves, because Jesus is our model, and he’s a thief in the parable. Any challenge to this teaching stands in opposition to Godâs plan for His creation. He had just been duped into marrying the wrong girl. There are so many things that are questionable like for example birth control ,God said be fruitful and multiply but what has happened christian woman are taking birth control and not fulfilling there roles as a wife to bare children, they tell there husband i only want 1 or 2 I have a job and gym and family activities etc … so the wife tell her husband 1 or 2 but he wants 5 or 7 or even 10 and she is to submit to him so where is the obedience to Gods word ? Jesus clearly stated that marriage was “two become one flesh”, not more than two. It’s simply His perfect will. Granted, sojourners were allowed to convert, but the purpose was so that Jesus could prove He was a direct descendant of Abraham, thus fulfilling God’s promise. That was one of many things Jesus was sent to do and I recommend Christians study Judaism. Having more than one spouse comes at a cost. Therefore, Abraham lived before the old law and was subject to the law of the land, which at that time, was the nation of Elba. But those are not Biblical principles. Genesis is quite clear: One man and one wife. I believe the Anglican Church as undergone the most open evolution on the matter. The whole episode makes a lot more sense to me if you assume that Abram and Sarai saw nothing morally wrong with what she suggested. Genesis 16:5 (ASV) By the waysides you have sat awaiting lovers like an Arab in the wilderness. So taking any document as Gods words when it is not of ancient origin and is not available to be read in it’s original text is a reach by any man made religion in my opinion. We make statements that we are not qualified to make. And Sarai said to Abram, “Behold now, the Lord has prevented me from bearing children. We however are under command to respect the law of the land so that if nothing else requires monogamy. W I observe the entire bible(especially the Tanahk & Torah) and must express to you my appreciation of both your studies and your thorough yet concise presentation thereof. What made him a “man after God’s own heart” was that he was always repentful, always tried to return, to repair his relationship with God. In the Bible, I see a continuity, a single, continuous, clear statement about marriage from God: Then the Lord God said, “It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him. I would like to point out that in regards to this verse, even in a plural marriage, it is a man and his wife. “When did God stop allowing multiple wives”, What do wives want? You’re welcome to think it’s narrow and not logical, but I haven’t seen a better argument in your response, so I’m going to stand by mine. He sure said do not bear false witness. God used this unfortunate family circumstance to further His Kingdom. Nowhere did God give up his moniker of God nor does he share it anywhere in the OT nor did the Jesus ever say that he is god or that god is he. Yet in the english, this somehow condemns this. When the head of the household sins, when he goes away from God’s plan, when he’s not modeling a good walk with God, the effects on the children are disastrous. Now there came a traveler to the rich man, and he was unwilling to take one of his own flock or herd to prepare for the guest who had come to him, but he took the poor man's lamb and prepared it for the man who had come to him.” Then David's anger was greatly kindled against the man, and he said to Nathan, “As the Lord lives, the man who has done this deserves to die, ... Then David fled from Naioth in Ramah and came and said before Jonathan, “What have I done? He came to him and said to him, “There were two men in a certain city, the one rich and the other poor. Let marriage be held in honor among all, and let the marriage bed be undefiled, for God will judge the sexually immoral and adulterous. That’s not the point of the parable. U For, as it is written, “The two will become one flesh.”. Our son said to our youngest son, “You are like my brother from another mother,” and he laughed. I think he longed for the days of simplicity. The model of marriage God intended is one man and one woman and each partner should tend to the sexual needs of the other. I You have polluted the land with your vile whoredom. This is the case for me and my (female) best friend, at least. In a rage, Jacob confronts Laban who cites some custom about the eldest daughter needing to be wed before the younger and offers Rachel as a second wife, after a week long honeymoon with Leah, if Jacob will work another 7 years afterwards. (As spouses we don’t need to go out of our ways to do that. Just like God did instruct the kings not to have multiple wives. ‣ 10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut. But, I have no doubt He wishes it would have happened without all this nonsense. That is why David had many wives and never commited adultery until he took Uriah’s wife. I can only speculate as to why God allowed polygamy, but I believe in falls along the same lines as Jesus states about divorce in Matt 19:8 – only because of the hardness of their hearts was it allowed, but from the beginning it was not so. Jacob was speaking specifically to the people of his day who were forbidden to practice it, so for them to disobey God in this matter and practice polygamy would be abominable, but that doesn’t rule out other times where God does command it. What’s “killing me”.. is the loneliness. Ezekiel 23 is not talking about two separate brides, but rather how individuals within His bride act. here a token for you my brother. S If God HIMSELF choose more than one wife…then how is that not the “Ideal”? There is no different spiritual outcome for either choice. If we look at the context of the times, Sarah’s giving Hagar as a wife had nothing to do with anything other than saving personal humiliation at not having children in her tent (look at the examples of Rachel and Leah and see those were nothing more than vindictive sibling rivalries). Shalom. Rachel has his love, but Leah bears his children. If God did not wish sexual relations to take place between them, why would God give them to David as wives rather then just command him to financially support/protect them as non-wives, or at least tell David to not get intimate with them? However, Jesus does say He’s God in John 10:30. Later on, when reflecting on all the things he has done, the empire he has built, his accomplishments, his life, he says this: Live joyfully with the wife whom you love all the days of your vain life which He has given you under the sun—all the days of futility. They were appointing pagan priests over their new found religious creation. They try to easily explain it away with “oh, that was the Old Testament”, as if the Old Testament doesn’t matter. All Scripture quotations, unless otherwise indicated, are taken from The Holy Bible, English Standard Version. In such a case the civil authority has nothing to do in the matter.} For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. And David wasn’t at the time. It is also questionable to me to claim that polygamy is a violation of marriage being one man and one woman. God knows my heart better than his children. Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Same as the ‘savior’ issue. Interested in being an affiliate of our site and earning a commission on our products? The Bible compares Christ and the Church to a marriage. Look at the strife caused in 1 Samuel 1 by having more than one. ‣ During his reign, he had rest from all his enemies. 3 Then Sarai, Abram’s wife, took Hagar her maid, the Egyptian, and gave her to her husband Abram to be his wife, after Abram had dwelt ten years in the land of Canaan. Anyway, with a little more thought on the topic, the explicit directive is actually there – in all the verses that say if someone marries another while their first spouse is alive, they are committing adultery. Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. (But, has it really ever gone away… not really, just underground.) I regret to inform you that I have no questions at this time for you, it was just in the forefront of my mind to provide you some feedback on this Or he had no control over what happened you post a long blog about when God decided man should not have multiple wives but u never really answered the question. David writes so much about forgiveness in the Psalms that it’s unlikely he felt he lived a blameless life (save for his one indiscretion) either. I think if you approach the Bible with a relationship based approach you’ll figure it out. I propose that it didn’t. That doesn’t make sense, because the pagan priests didn’t have wives…so why would they translate it into something that still disqualified them? I gave my servant to your embrace, and when she saw that she had conceived, she looked on me with contempt. These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens. Church policy reflects the fact that at this time God has commanded it not be practiced. Go in to my servant; it may be that I shall obtain children by her.” And Abram listened to the voice of Sarai. 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